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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Passing as “Normal” (Katherine May)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Lemonada Media

Self-improvement, Education

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

“I increasingly feel that modern life is becoming intolerable for everyone, whether they're neurodivergent or not. I think we've noticed it earlier. I think, you know, we've reached our point of unbearable discomfort earlier along the line. But I just begin to think that the way we are living is generally hostile to our brains and our neurology. We are, all of us, completely overwhelmed all the time. And you know, like the idea that some people had a good pandemic, well that's because the world called a truce on some of us, and we didn't realize we needed it until that moment. I mean, I don't know what it's gonna take for us to all pull the break on this because it's not good. It's not good for us.” So says Katherine May, the New York Times bestselling author of Wintering, the book that spoke to so many of our souls when it came out a month before the pandemic: Katherine anticipated what all of us felt, which is that our way of living was not supportable, and that we needed retreat and rest. Katherine is a prophet for a number of reasons: Not only because she’s a stunningly beautiful writer and astute observer of the world, but also because she’s wired a little bit differently. Before she wrote WINTERING, Katherine wrote another book, a memoir called THE ELECTRICITY OF EVERY LIVING THING, about attempting to walk the 630 mile South West Coast Path in Britain before turning 40. But it’s not a book about a heroic feat, it’s actually about grappling with her late-in-life diagnosis as being on the autism spectrum disorder. Katherine always knew she was different, but she never knew exactly how or why, only that she found many parts of life overwhelming and chaotic. The book, which is stunning, explores the ways so many of us feel like we’re passing—picking up behaviors from other people in order to be accepted, or to fit in.  MORE FROM KATHERINE MAY: The Electricity of Every Living Thing Wintering The Best Most Awful Job Katherine May’s Website Follow Katherine on Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi friends. Throughout this holiday season, you will find me right here per normal. We will keep

0:06.6

publishing new episodes every week and a few solos thrown in as well. So when you just need to escape

0:14.2

from the business of the holiday shuffle or take a break from mom or dad or who knows who,

0:19.8

we'll be here as we always are.

0:30.8

Hi, it's Elise Loonen, host of Pulling the Thread.

0:34.5

I'm an author, a podcast host, and parent who built a long career in media.

0:38.9

I grew up in a state of perpetual curiosity, investigating the world and asking a lot of questions.

0:45.4

In this show, I chat with culture defining leaders, thinkers, and experts about this rare

0:50.8

moment that we find ourselves in and how to think about our own lives and experiences,

0:55.6

within a larger social and spiritual construct.

0:59.7

I increasingly feel that modern life is becoming intolerable for everyone,

1:06.1

whether they're neurodivergent or not.

1:08.7

I think we've noticed it earlier. I think, you know, we've reached our

1:14.1

point of unbearable discomfort earlier along the line, but I just begin to think that the way we're

1:22.0

living is generally hostile to our brains and our neurology.

1:29.3

We are all of us completely overwhelmed all the time.

1:34.3

And, you know, like the idea that some people had a good pandemic,

1:39.3

well, that's because the world called a truce on some of us,

1:42.3

and we didn't realize we needed it until that moment.

1:47.3

I mean, I don't know what it's going to take for us to all pull the break on this, because it's not good.

1:55.6

It's not good for us.

1:57.3

So says Catherine May, the New York Times best-selling author of Wintering, the book that spoke to so many of our souls when it came out a month before the pandemic.

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