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He Said, She Said

What our 4-year-old REALLY thinks of us...

He Said, She Said

Staying Relevant Productions

Parenting, Kids & Family, Ryan Libbey, Made In Chelsea, Fertility, Therapy, Surrogacy, Babies, He Said She Said, Lifestyle, Sam Thompson, Staying Relevant, Relationships, Pete Wicks, Relationship, Louise Thompson, Kids, Society & Culture

4.3888 Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

This week on He Said, She Said, we’re chatting all about sleep habits, mums, and welcoming a very special (and very small) guest to the podcast…


We kick things off with a catch-up on our trip to Scotland and what travelling with a four-year-old is really like.


Then we dive into a surprisingly heated debate about sleep… which leads to talking about our own sleeping habits, snoring accusations, and whether couples should ever share a bed in the first place.


With Mother’s Day around the corner, we spend some time reflecting on mums - from embarrassing childhood moments and the things we definitely took for granted, to the moment you realise your mum is just… a person.


And finally… please welcome our youngest guest ever. Leo joins the pod to give his honest review of what mummy is really like at home and we put mum vs dad to the test in a game to see who actually knows Leo best.


Spoiler: the answers are not what we expected.



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0:00.0

This weekend is Mother's Day, so we've got a bit of a special episode. We're going to deep dive

0:04.0

into our relationships with our moms, the evolution of that. You almost been brought up as an

0:08.9

only child, fair to say. Your parents have actually just been staying with us. They have.

0:14.8

But before we get into all of that stuff, I wanted to talk about the train home from Scotland.

0:23.7

That shouldn't be the bit that stays in our minds from that weekend, but it does.

0:28.7

It does.

0:29.3

I've never seen you so angry.

0:31.4

Like, genuinely, like, I actually thought that you were going to explode.

0:36.5

So there was a guy sat next to us on the train that was coughing every five minutes.

0:43.3

And you, I thought you were going to punch him.

0:50.1

Yeah.

0:50.8

It's nearly five hours on the train.

0:53.1

It wasn't particularly busy. So there's other seats available in the carriage. And this guy, it wasn't even five minutes. I feel like it was every two minutes. And there was no real effort to like try and like remedy it. There was no like, oh, I'm really sorry. I'll excuse myself and go to the sort of vestibule area and just get out of my system.

2:20.5

There was no, I'll go and try and get some coffee sweets from the key of scary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was actually disgusting. To be fair, I think I'm just better at like hiding my emotions in that scenario. But coughing on a train is socially unacceptable. Do you know what's funny? You just said that he coughed every two minutes. The moment that you moved or like went to the loo or left the carriage, the coughing actually stopped. I think he was to fuck you off. No way. Yeah. You know when people like look up and they try and stretch because it's like a tickley cough. So they're like look up and they're like like like like this. And I was like, are you trying to force this? Or are you just responding to like a coach? That's what I mean. I think he was forcing it to annoy you. Because at the beginning, I think that he saw that you were annoyed. They, this couple were probably in their 60s. They were playing cards. And I thought that they looked at the kinds of people that we might end up having a nice conversation with. There was something that had happened in their life that made them very, very unhappy. And they hated us. And they hated the fact that we had a four-year-old. And this guy was forcing out the coughs. Okay, if that was us and you were coughing like that, I would boot you down to the cafe car and say, get a swig of water.

2:26.5

I had to move seats and put headphones on and sort of signal to you to be like, we need to take this in turns.

2:28.6

I'll take Leah for 30 minutes, then you take him.

2:30.8

Because I'm on the ropes.

2:33.4

I think I'm a little bit more patient than you in that scenario.

2:50.9

In that scenario, yes. But there are other things that I think are revolting. Like when people eat a full stop when traveling. I'll tell you what my absolute pet peeve is in public, in fact, just in general. You know, when people go and they like, they sniff, but they're trying to like, rather than blow their nose like a normal polite person, they go, oh my God. I hate it. Like, that's worth. But when they're like, when they're like swallowing their phlegm? Yeah. But you know what I'm talking about, right? Um, I hate it more than any, more than the coughing dude on the train. Like, what does it make you feel inside? You're actually clenching your vest right now right now. I am. Yeah, yeah. Because I just think that's so, like, inconsiderate to people around you.

3:13.4

Yeah. I think that opening a bag of, like, quavers on a train around the tube is pretty rank. Or, like,

3:20.1

someone eating a sloppy sandwich, like a tuna. What's a sloppy sandwich? Actually, just sandwiches. You know I hate sandwiches anyway. The way you say sandwiches is quite unique. Sandwich. Really? Yeah. I used to watch a show called Ladies of London, and one of the ladies was married to the Earl of Sandwich. And I just thought that was such an epic title. But I think sandwiches down by the coast. Dorset, maybe? What's your worst kind of sandwich? I know the answer. Egg mayonnaise. Ugh. Because you've got a mayonnaise thing. I've never tried mayonnaise in my life. Can't get my head around it. Is that really weird? It just looks like... Don't say it.

3:58.5

It's not like something that should be eaten.

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