What No One Ever Told You About the Book of Revelation w/ Dr. Chip Bennett & Dr. Warren Gage

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

What’s the true meaning of the Book of Revelation? Is it only about the end times, or have we overlooked its deeper roots in the Old Testament? For centuries, Christians have wrestled with its symbols and prophecies—could it be that we've been missing the bigger picture?This week, Frank welcomes Dr. Chip Bennett, pastor of Grace Community Church in Sarasota, FL along with his mentor and biblical scholar, Dr. Warren Gage, to reveal the often-ignored historical and theological context behind the Book of Revelation. Tune in as Frank, Chip, and Warren explore how early Christians—and the Church Fathers—understood this mysterious book and what modern readers might be missing. Together, they’ll tackle questions like:* What's the surprising connection between the Book of Joshua, Jesus, and the Book of Revelation?* Is Revelation a book of fear or a book of hope?* What’s the meaning behind the Two Witnesses and Jesus calling Himself “the door”?* How are stories like Rahab and Isaac prophetic pictures of Christ?* How is Scripture one of our greatest apologetic tools?* What did the early church fathers say about the Book of Revelation?* Why didn’t John Calvin write a commentary on Revelation, and is it a completely futuristic book?Discover how the original recipients of Revelation would have read it, and why modern day readers need to recover a historical hermeneutic to understand it properly. This is a must-hear conversation for any and all Bible readers so don’t keep it to yourself--share it with a friend to help them connect the dots!Resources mentioned during the episode:Grace Community Church - https://www.gracesarasota.com/ (https://www.gracesarasota.com/)The Revelation Project with Chip & Warren - http://bit.ly/44LbAGL (http://bit.ly/44LbAGL)Chip on TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@drchipbennett (https://www.tiktok.com/@drchipbennett)Dr. Warren Gage on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@drwarrengage (https://www.youtube.com/@drwarrengage)Chip on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@drchipbennett (https://www.youtube.com/@drchipbennett)The Book of Revelation Explained in 5 Minutes! - https://www.watermarkgospel.com/revelation (https://www.watermarkgospel.com/revelation)Dr. Gage’s Essay on Revelation - https://www.drwarrengage.com/revelation (https://www.drwarrengage.com/revelation)

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0:00.0	Ladies and gentlemen, what is the proper meaning of the book of Revelation?
0:07.0	Christians are going to argue over that and have been arguing over that for centuries.
0:12.0	Is the book completely about future events?
0:15.0	What do the symbols mean?
0:17.0	Should we be reading Revelation in one hand and the news in the other hand to figure out when
0:23.2	the end times will occur? Is Revelation a book of fear, a book of hope, or both? Is Revelation
0:30.9	modeled after a person in the Old Testament who the early church father saw, but today few see this connection.
0:40.9	That's what we're going to talk about today.
0:43.0	You know, some of the best podcasts we've ever done on the Bible were with my friend
0:47.6	Dr. Chip Bennett, who's the pastor of Grace Community Church in Sarasota, Florida.
0:52.9	Chip is back today, and he's brought his colleague and mentor Dr. Warren Gage.
0:59.0	Dr. Gage has his degree from Dallas Deological Seminary.
1:03.2	He's taught at Knox Deological Seminary, and he also has his law degree, and his research
1:09.7	is absolutely fascinating on not only Revelation, but the Bible in general.
1:15.6	And so let me start by introducing both of these gentlemen who are going to be on the podcast with me the entire time.
1:23.9	The great Chip Bennett, Chip, start us off.
1:25.5	What have you learned from the great Dr. Warren Gage?
1:28.1	Frank, first of all, thanks for let me be on the program again. You're a great friend. Appreciate
1:33.5	all that you do. You know that. You know, when I attended Knox, I had just the, it was providential, really, to meet Warren.
1:47.1	And what Warren did is Warren gave me, if you can imagine, you have a house.
1:54.2	You spent all these years in this house and you know all the rooms really well.
1:58.2	I mean, I felt like I was probably really proficient,
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