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What Next - Why There’s a Cop at Your Kid’s School

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News Commentary, Politics, News

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🗓️ 21 June 2023

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

It’s been one year since the Uvalde school shooting – and while Texas hasn’t passed any gun control legislation, it has passed a measure aimed at “hardening schools.” Last week, Governor Greg Abbott signed HB-3 into law, requiring every public school to have an armed officer on campus. The legislation comes even as a former sheriff’s deputy is on trial in Florida for failing to protect students when a gunman opened fire at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in 2018. 


Do school safety officers stop school shootings? And if they don’t – what do they do instead? 


Guest: Anya Kamenetz, education reporter and author of "The Stolen Year: How Covid Changed Children’s Lives, And Where We Go Now."


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Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. 


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0:00.0

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0:20.2

If you walk into any public school in New York City, even an elementary school, you'll be greeted the same way.

0:33.7

Not by the principal, not by a teacher. It's so funny, right? Because it's going to be a police officer.

0:39.3

Ony a cabinet is an education reporter. She lives in Brooklyn, just like me.

0:48.5

I remember when I first set my kids to school in New York City. I was kind of shocked that there

0:55.2

was a police presence inside them and that the police presence was so evident, like the second you

1:00.0

got in. And I sort of assumed it was a city thing. Yeah, but that's actually not true. It is

1:05.3

really common and it's very much a product of the sort of like the age of column line.

1:11.3

I called Ony up because I wanted to talk about this police presence. Tens of thousands of schools

1:17.1

now have what they call student resource officers, which is a nice way of saying police officers

1:22.8

who work in schools. Many of them carry guns and after every school shooting, the clamor for more

1:29.6

of these officers gets louder. We can't stop bad people from doing bad things. They're going to

1:35.7

hours after 19 children were gunned down at an elementary school in Yvalda, Texas. The state

1:41.7

attorney general went on Fox News and suggested that arming people in schools could keep kids safe.

1:48.2

Even though in Yvalda, the schools actually had their own police force.

1:52.9

Having the right training for some of these people at the school is the best open and nothing's

1:58.1

going to work perfectly, but that in my opinion is the best answer to this problem.

2:04.0

A few months later, Senator Ted Cruz got more specific.

2:08.3

I think the number one thing that makes schools safer is having more armed police officers

2:14.4

on campus to keep our students safe. Then just last week, Texas mandated that every public school

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