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What Next: What Venezuelan Migrants Are Fleeing

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Venezuela has lost about a fifth of its population since its economic collapse in 2014. Roughly 6.8 million people have fled the country, creating one of the largest refugee crises in the world. Why does Venezuela’s free-fall continue? And how is the U.S. government responding to increasing numbers of Venezuelan refugees? Guest: Cindy Arnson, a distinguished fellow at The Wilson Center and former director of its Latin American Program. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

In the blitz of coverage about those private planes that carried dozens of migrants to

0:11.1

Martha's vineyard last month, there's this one fact I can't stop thinking about.

0:15.5

It's about where these migrants were coming from.

0:19.2

Not Mexico, not Guatemala, but Venezuela.

0:23.0

There are seven countries between the United States and Venezuela.

0:28.2

That means the people on those planes were at the end of a very long trip.

0:32.9

Cindy Arnson, the New Wilson Center's Latin America program, she wasn't surprised by

0:37.2

who was on this plane.

0:38.8

She says, over the last few years, 20 percent of Venezuela's population has fled.

0:46.1

Sometimes they're coming directly from Venezuela.

0:48.3

Sometimes they're coming from other countries to which they had migrated to leave Venezuela.

0:58.6

The reality that people need to focus on is that the numbers of people from Venezuela,

1:05.6

from Nicaragua, or from Cuba, all left-wing dictatorships that are opposed, not just by

1:12.6

the Biden administration, but by the Republican Party, by Ron DeSantis himself, the governor

1:18.8

of Florida.

1:20.9

Those are the countries that have seen a surge in arrivals at the U.S. border.

1:28.3

Did it strike you as kind of ironic?

1:33.0

It's probably something that Governor Santos was not paying a lot of attention to.

1:40.4

To understand why so many people are fleeing Venezuela in particular, just go check out

1:45.2

the State Department's website.

1:47.3

The U.S. government explicitly advises against going to Venezuela yourself due to rampant

1:52.5

crime, civil unrest, poor health infrastructure, and kidnapping, among other things.

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