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What Next: What Comes After the Ceasefire?

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4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 27 November 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

A ceasefire between Israel and Hamas began this weekend in Gaza, as hostages and prisoners were freed by both sides. But any end to the immediate conflict still remains in doubt. Guest: Peter Beinart, professor of journalism and political science at the Craig Newmark Graduate School of Journalism at the City University of New York, editor-at-large at Jewish Currents, and author of The Beinart Notebook on Substack. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Amicus—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Over the last three days I found myself waking up and looking for these images. Pictures of people who've been released as part of the hostage deal Israel negotiated with Hamas.

0:17.0

The first pictures I saw were of people on buses, Red Cross vans filled with stunned passengers, heading out of a nightmare.

0:29.0

Then there were videos from inside hospitals. In one, a gangly nine-year-old boy in

0:34.9

glasses and sandals is steered around a corner. And then he sees his father and

0:40.3

brother and he breaks into a run.

0:43.0

Yes, yes, that I found an incredible movie.

0:46.0

I watched it with my family several times.

0:49.0

Journalist Peter Bynart has been looking at these images too.

0:53.7

I mean I think right any of us where parents can just immediately identify with that.

0:59.3

There are also images of Palestinian women and minors. Their families given just hours notice of

1:05.5

their imminent release from prison. A joyous celebration as 23-year-old

1:11.7

Malak Soleiman finally arrives home in East Jerusalem after six years in an Israeli

1:17.8

prison.

1:18.8

Each day since Friday, a few more hostages and detainees have emerged a handful at a time, and

1:25.9

the Israeli assault on Gaza has largely come to a stop.

1:30.9

How would you characterize the deal that led to the release of both Israeli hostages and Palestinian detainees?

1:38.0

If you had to use one word, what would you say?

1:41.6

I think it was necessary and so I'd use the word necessary, but I also think it's part of the ongoing tragedy.

1:51.0

And it's part of the ongoing tragedy, first of all, because of course most of the

1:56.2

hostages that Hamas holds have not been released, and they should all be released unconditionally.

2:01.8

Secondly, it's part of the ongoing tragedy

2:05.2

of the immense suffering of the people in Gaza.

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