What Next | Trump Sends in the Troops

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🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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When immigration raids began in the Los Angeles area last weekend, so did spontaneous protests. On Sunday, Trump federalized 2,000 California national guardsmen in response. While Trump stopped short of invoking the Insurrection Act, he claimed authority to send troops wherever ICE operations might be contested by mass demonstrations. Guest: Elizabeth Goitein, co-director of the Liberty and National Security Program at the Brennan Center for Justice. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Isabel Angell, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Quick heads up here at the top. There are a couple of curse words in this episode.
0:05.8	And while I'm here, I should say we recorded this conversation Sunday night.
0:10.6	And the story of what's happening on the ground in L.A. is a live one.
0:14.8	There's always a chance things shifted overnight.
0:28.0	Best I can tell, what's been happening in Los Angeles over the last few days,
0:36.1	started with a number, a quota, to be precise. Towards end of May, President Trump's aide Stephen Miller came to immigration officials with a demand.
0:40.5	He wanted them to triple the number of immigrants they arrested each day.
0:46.7	This is, according to reporting in Axios, meeting his request, that would mean detaining 3,000 people every 24 hours.
1:00.4	This is about when I started noticing the videos.
1:04.5	There was one of a business owner in Western Massachusetts, confronting ICE agents in tactical vests.
1:10.3	I have asked for IDs.
1:12.1	Can you please tell me that you refuse to give us your IDs?
1:14.9	We don't need to give you IDs.
1:16.1	You don't need to give us IDs.
1:17.4	So how do we know you're federal?
1:20.4	How do we know your federal?
1:22.4	So you call the locals.
1:24.4	Call the locals.
1:25.4	Then there was one showing angry crowds chanting,
1:29.3	get the fuck out during a raid in Minneapolis.
1:32.3	Get the fuck out!
1:34.3	Get the fuck out!
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