The Smugglers Getting Rich Off Trump’s Policies
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🗓️ 21 June 2019
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
Mexico has agreed to crack down on immigration in response to threats from President Trump. But that isn’t stopping the flow of migrants -- it’s pushing it further underground.
Guest: Emily Green, freelance reporter. You can read her latest story on VICE News.
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| 0:00.0 | Emily Green has spent months trying to understand how Mexico is policing its border. |
| 0:10.5 | She's talked to immigration officials, to immigrants themselves, but to find the person she really |
| 0:15.9 | wanted to talk to, a coyote, a person who ferries migrants from Central and South America to the U.S. |
| 0:22.2 | She had to go to Guatemala. |
| 0:23.8 | And I think that when I was in Guatemala last week, one of the things that stood out to me is, |
| 0:29.9 | it seems like everybody there actually knows personally or knows of a coyote. |
| 0:34.6 | It's like, yeah, isn't right around the corner? Doesn't he smuggle people? |
| 0:41.4 | And so, while in my last eight months I've been seeking, desperately seeking a coyote there in |
| 0:48.5 | Guatemala, it's like every other person has some role in the business. |
| 0:54.7 | Emily was working on a story for Vice News when she met Daniel. |
| 0:59.0 | So Daniel is a middle-aged man. |
| 1:02.1 | He is a family man with three kids. |
| 1:05.1 | And he transports migrants from Guatemala into Mexico. He says he does it twice a month. He calls |
| 1:14.9 | himself El Guilla, the guide. So if I'm traveling with Daniel, what does it look like? |
| 1:23.0 | Lately, he's been going in sort of four-wheel drive trucks and convoys of four-wheel drive |
| 1:27.7 | trucks. |
| 1:30.3 | These are trucks usually only used by narco-traffickers, and the police just don't want to |
| 1:35.0 | mess with the narco-traffickers. |
| 1:37.7 | So there'll be maybe 12 migrants in each truck, and there are three trucks, and then |
| 1:44.0 | there's a car that goes ahead to alert of checkpoints. |
| 1:50.1 | So you're sort of zooming down these back roads of Guatemala and into Mexico. |
| 1:58.0 | Along the way, everyone gets paid. |
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