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An Iran Deal Architect Watches It Get Nuked

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2019

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Last week, a series of escalations brought the US to the brink of a strike on Iran. But only a few short years ago, the leaders of both countries were celebrating a landmark nuclear agreement. What changed? One of the architects of the Iran Nuclear Deal takes us through the journey, and lays out the Trump Administration’s limited options in the coming weeks. Guest: Ambassador Wendy Sherman, former Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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A picture of the way things used to be when it came to American foreign policy.

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It was taken back in 2015, the Iran nuclear deal had just been agreed to in Vienna.

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In this picture, then Secretary of State John Kerry is on a government plane with his lead negotiator,

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Ambassador Wendy Sherman.

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They're on their way home. They look relieved.

0:58.0

They've got glasses of wine in their hands.

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We opened the bottle. We handed out plastic cup, took a sip.

1:06.0

That was our celebration and immediately everyone on that airplane just passed out in a question.

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I've been thinking about that photo of Ambassador Sherman because in it,

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she's got the satisfied smile of someone who's just done something really difficult, almost impossible.

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We were humbled by the historic nature of this agreement.

1:28.0

Nobody wanted to run to have a nuclear weapon.

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So I think we all understood the gravity of what we had done, but also what was before us.

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