What Next - The Shocking Jan. 6 Hearing Was Not a Slam Dunk
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🗓️ 30 June 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
A surprise session of the House’s Jan. 6 committee featured testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, the former executive assistant to White House chief of staff Mark Meadows. Hutchinson was inside the White House as the Jan. 6 riot happened, and she testified that Trump knew an armed crowd was chanting “hang Mike Pence”—the thing that upset him most was not being able to join them.
Hutchinson’s testimony was the bombshell the committee had been waiting for. Is it enough to actually hold Donald Trump accountable?
Guest: Ben Mathis-Lilley, senior writer at Slate.
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| 0:36.9 | The surprise hearing this week in front of the January 6th select committee was so well plotted, |
| 0:43.6 | so vivid that it didn't really feel like a hearing at all. It felt like an episode of the West Wing. |
| 0:49.4 | There was a single witness, Cassidy Hutchinson. Cassidy was an aide to Trump's chief of staff, |
| 0:56.4 | Mark Meadows. Mr. Chairman, we will begin today with an exchange that first provided Ms. Hutchinson |
| 1:02.8 | a tangible sense of the ongoing planning for the events of January 6th. |
| 1:08.0 | Cassidy's testimony started off with a bit of foreshadowing, a story about a late-night meeting |
| 1:13.3 | between the chief of staff and the president's lawyer Rudy Giuliani. She's walking with Rudy Giuliani |
| 1:18.8 | and he tells her something big is happening on January 6th. Slade's Ben Mathis Lilly is acting as |
| 1:25.2 | my guide to these hearings. He looked to me and said something to the effect of, Cassidy, |
| 1:30.8 | you excited for the 6th? It's going to be a great day. I remember looking at him saying, Rudy, |
| 1:37.4 | could you explain what's happening on the 6th? He had responded something to the effect of, |
| 1:43.9 | we're going to the Capitol. It's going to be great. The president's going to be there. He's going to |
| 1:48.9 | look powerful. And then she talks to Mark Meadows about it afterward and he says things could get |
| 1:55.1 | real bad on January 6th. So you're picturing this happening at night outside the White House and |
| 2:00.4 | kind of feeling the foreboding starting to sweep over you already. |
| 2:07.2 | I started calling the hearing this week, Revenge of the Intern. That's how Cassidy Hutchinson started |
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