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What Next: The NFL’s Race Problem

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Until last month, Brian Flores was the head coach of the Miami Dolphins, and one of only three Black head coaches among the NFL’s 32 teams. That number has since dropped to one. On Tuesday, Flores announced he was suing the NFL, alleging that the league's hiring practices are racist. His suit comes almost 20 years after the creation of the Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview ethnic-minority candidates for senior positions, and eight years after Colin Kaepernick was black-balled from the sport for kneeling during the national anthem—begging the question of how much has really changed in that time. Guest: LZ Granderson, columnist for the Los Angeles Times and host of ABC News’ “Life Out Loud with LZ Granderson.” If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

There's something so romantic about winter and I don't know whether that's just because

0:05.4

I'm a bit for homebody and I love a 5.

0:08.0

But I think it's just the holiday period, it's just for me, it's the most romantic period.

0:14.2

And I think anyone who's listened to my records will know that I'm quite a big fan of romance.

0:18.8

Joy in every sip with red cups now back at Starbucks.

0:27.6

And everyone, quick warning, there's some salty language in today's episode.

0:35.6

A couple weeks back, Bill Bella check, the general manager of the New England Patriots,

0:40.8

sent a text that by now he probably regrets.

0:44.4

He was reaching out to a guy named Brian.

0:46.8

Only apparently there are two Brian's saved in his phone, a white Brian and a black Brian.

0:53.8

And he was congratulating the white Brian on the hiring or getting the New York Giants head coaching job.

1:00.4

The problem is that he texted Brian Forez, the black Brian.

1:08.0

Black Brian, Brian Forez was also up for this coaching job with the Giants.

1:13.8

And black Brian had yet to interview for that job, but he was slotted to interview for that job three days from which he got that text message.

1:22.8

Elsie Granderson has been following the saga of these texts.

1:26.4

He says eventually, Brian Forez texted Bella Chick back and he asked,

1:30.8

are you sure you're messaging the right guy?

1:33.8

Bella Chick's response?

1:35.8

Sorry, I after this up.

1:38.8

When you saw these texts, did they surprise you?

1:40.8

No.

1:42.8

For Elsie, this comedy of errors reveals a darker truth about the NFL.

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