What Next | The Lawsuit Scaring Protesters

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🗓️ 24 June 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

A jury recently found Greenpeace liable for more than $660 million in damages to the company behind the Dakota Access pipeline for its role in the Standing Rock protests. But the ramifications extend far beyond Greenpeace. As protests against various Trump administration policies heat up across the country, what does this lawsuit say about how opponents can weaponize the courts to criminalize protesters? Guest: Alleen Brown, independent investigative reporter, editor at Drilled Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I made you think you was real.
0:02.0	My name is Caden Sinclair.
0:04.0	Some people call us American royalty.
0:06.0	We were Liars.
0:08.0	A new series on Prime Video.
0:10.0	We were happy. We wanted for nothing.
0:12.0	Based on the best-selling novel.
0:15.0	Something terrible happened last summer,
0:17.0	and I have no memory of what or who hurt me.
0:20.0	No one in my family will tell me.
0:22.7	When you're left for dead, you want answers.
0:25.2	We Will Liars. New series, watch now, only on Prime Video.
0:35.0	If you're a regular listener to this show, you know that I've been thinking a lot about protests these days.
0:41.8	What makes a protest work? What makes a protest fail? And every week, it seems like there's more to consider.
0:51.5	We move now to other major news on this Saturday night.
0:55.0	Massive crowds gathering from coast to coast for those so-called no Kings Day protests counter-programming.
1:01.0	Some protests have been highly coordinated, planned in advance.
1:06.0	What's going on?
1:07.0	Let me show you, Chris.
1:09.0	So these are two protests converging at the same time here. I want to show you this one. Others are not. You see what your sign says. We are not criminal. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's go. People protest. We're not doing nothing wrong. But one thing's clear. The protests we're seeing now, they're not going away.
1:30.9	Aline Brown, she's been thinking about protest, too.
1:35.4	You know, I think maybe I'm especially interested in the ways that, I guess, legislators and other entities are turning to a range of familiar tactics
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