What Next: The 30-Year Plan to End Roe

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🗓️ 6 December 2021

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After oral arguments last week, the Supreme Court looks ready to overturn Roe v. Wade. How did conservatives get to this moment when the majority of Americans favor legalized abortion? And do liberals have the patience to keep the fight alive? Guest: Mark Joseph Stern, staff writer at Slate covering the Supreme Court. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Mark Joseph Stern, how confident are you in how the Supreme Court is going to rule when
0:11.4	it comes to abortion?
0:12.7	My confidence level is high.
0:15.4	Like off the charts high?
0:16.7	No, not off the charts high.
0:18.8	That's, I mean, you know, pride go with before the fall.
0:21.0	I can't ever say that, but I would say I am pretty confident.
0:25.8	I would bet a reasonable sum of money on the outcome that I have at mind.
0:30.6	Okay.
0:31.6	And the outcome you think is that the Supreme Court will overturn Roe v Wade.
0:38.9	This is a weird time to be Mark Joseph Stern, Slates Supreme Court reporter.
0:44.5	For years, he's been saying how extreme the court's getting.
0:47.6	He's marveled at the way the justices have been quietly steamrolling over precedent.
0:53.2	When he dialed in to last week's oral arguments, where the state of Mississippi was asking the
0:58.1	court to uphold a ban on abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy, it felt a little like
1:03.8	and I told you so moment.
1:06.2	I feel like some people owe me an apology to be frank, but of course I don't like being
1:12.6	right.
1:13.6	I hate being right.
1:14.6	It is a curse to be right.
1:15.6	I love it when I'm wrong and I wish I had been wrong about this one.
1:19.5	I mean, you said the justices on Wednesday showed their cards.
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