What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - Iran's Memes Are Winning
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🗓️ 19 April 2026
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
This very online administration is facing push back from Iran in their own home territory: the world of insipid memes, A.I. videos, and online mockery.
Guest: Ali Breland, staff writer for the Atlantic.
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| 0:00.0 | When I crossed the ocean just to find your grader. |
| 0:09.0 | Sacrifice your own boys for a lie. |
| 0:11.4 | Listen. |
| 0:13.6 | Yeah. |
| 0:16.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:16.6 | Make America great again. |
| 0:19.6 | When I called up Ali Breeland at the Atlantic, I wanted to talk to him about this music video, which popped up on the internet in late March. |
| 0:28.5 | Everyone in the video is like a Lego kind of video, like Lego Batman, except Lego geopolitics. |
| 0:33.3 | The video starts with a Lego Donald Trump holding dice. |
| 0:37.4 | He rolls the dice, and then suddenly Lego Trump is on the deck of an aircraft carrier in storm-tossed seas. |
| 0:44.8 | Then we see fires, wreckage on the water, and a lot of military helmets. |
| 0:49.8 | The video is from an account called Explosive Media that appears to be Iranian. |
| 0:56.1 | And the song is titled Loser. |
| 1:02.5 | The main chorus is L-O-S-E-R, and it sort of is calling Trump. |
| 1:08.9 | It's very directly calling Trump a loser, but then it's also making points about the war and like letting Iran kind of slide its propaganda in and this sort of catchy musical kind of. I would maybe compare it. The rap style is a little bit different to Hamilton, but like that's kind of like a version of like what we're getting at here. It's maybe a little bit of more like pop rap infused, but |
| 1:27.6 | they're making a disc track. They're like speaking to Americans in the format that we're familiar |
| 1:32.9 | with with Kendrick versus Drake and Drake versus Meek Mill. It's a very time-honored American |
| 1:37.9 | tradition. Yeah, it says like, welcome to the graveyard of your vanity. Your secrets are leaking. |
| 1:43.5 | There's like an Epstein Files reference. |
| 1:47.6 | Yeah, this is like a hip-hop disc track, I guess, which just what? |
| 1:53.5 | It makes sense and kind of betrays like whoever is doing this has like a pretty good understanding of America. Not that it's like some secret |
| 2:02.6 | that, you know, distracts are a very big part of American culture, that rap is a part of American culture. |
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