What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - How to Rein in ICE and A.I.
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🗓️ 29 March 2026
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Artificial intelligence is working its way into every aspect of our lives, including law and immigration enforcement, and the industry is spending millions of dollars to ensure it can continue to do so unregulated. But as evidence of bias appears in this nascent tech, this congresswoman wants to ensure we’re not just recreating our historical biases and problems all over again—which is to say, she wants guardrails.
Guest: Summer Lee, U.S. representative for Pennsylvania’s 12th district.
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| 0:00.0 | Congresswoman Summer Lee, thanks so much for coming on. |
| 0:08.3 | That's good to see you. |
| 0:09.8 | Thanks for having me. |
| 0:12.2 | Summerlee represents Pennsylvania's 12th district. |
| 0:15.7 | That's an area in and around Pittsburgh. |
| 0:18.3 | She's a progressive Democrat. |
| 0:19.9 | And I've wanted to have her on the show for a while now |
| 0:22.5 | because she sponsored a couple of really interesting bills about AI. |
| 0:26.9 | When I got her on the line, I wanted to know how she got interested in AI in the first place. |
| 0:32.8 | That is, I love that question because I need you to know that I am actually such a technophobe. |
| 0:38.7 | Really? |
| 0:39.7 | I am. |
| 0:40.3 | Like technology is actually not my thing. |
| 0:42.7 | It's, you know, math, technology, things of that nature. |
| 0:46.4 | It's why I went to law school. |
| 0:48.5 | But I will say I was actually on science-based technology last Congress because it actually |
| 0:54.0 | is really important |
| 0:56.3 | economy for Pittsburgh, for Western Pennsylvania. I know a lot of people would never think that. |
| 1:01.3 | People would probably like, steal, manufacturing. No, we're actually ed, meds, robotics, tech, |
| 1:06.4 | AI, right? Is where our, you know, where we are headed towards. |
| 1:11.4 | But also for me on the civil rights side of it, that's my real interest. |
| 1:16.2 | And even when I was deciding to join that committee as an about technophobe, it was this idea that we need to have people in these spaces who are, who care about guard wells, who care about the trajectory |
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