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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - How Mark Zuckerberg Finds Your Perfect Pair of Shoes

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News Commentary, Politics, News

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2026

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

The era of ads following you around the internet via cookies might be coming to an end. What’s replacing it?


Guest: Sara Fisher, Axios' media correspondent, and media analyst at CNN.


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Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.




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0:00.0

So let's say that I run the Lizzie Corporation.

0:09.9

It sells, I don't know, cute fanny packs for stressed out moms.

0:15.4

I want to put some ads online so people learn about my company.

0:19.2

I want to know how to do that.

0:21.8

Oh man, I could work in so many different ways. I asked Sarah Fisher, who's the media correspondent

0:27.1

at Axios, what a company, my company, would do in 2026. Really, there's sort of two main

0:34.5

buckets, if you will, for advertising. One is called performance,

0:38.5

which is where you buy ads that are heavily targeted and customized to people on platforms

0:44.7

such as Facebook or Instagram or Google. And the goal is to get that end user to perform,

0:52.7

to click or to buy something.

0:55.0

The other type of ad that you could buy is what we would call brand ad.

0:59.0

And that type of ad is really about exposing a user at the very high level, top of their

1:06.0

marketing journey to what your company is and what it does.

1:10.0

You might not necessarily need them to take an

1:12.0

action on that ad today. People could, for example, come hang out at the tired mom pop-up house

1:19.3

at Coachella. And so those ads don't need to necessarily be as precisely targeted and customized.

1:27.1

They need to have much more of a storytelling message.

1:30.8

And so those ads typically get placed on video platforms like TV.

1:36.8

And they're what you know from your childhood, from the Super Bowl.

1:40.0

And yes, from Mad Men.

1:42.1

But the ad giants of today are obviously not two martini lunch guys.

1:47.4

They're tech companies.

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