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FISA and Fury

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4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2018

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about a new anti-tech lobbying group formed by ex-employees of Facebook and Google, the big trial that’s happening this week in San Francisco that involves Waymo accusing Uber of stealing trade secrets in a winner-take-all race for self-driving supremacy. The hosts are also joined by Marcy Wheeler, an independent journalist and long time expert on the ins and outs of FISA and mass digital surveillance. And as always, Don’t Close My Tabs, the hosts’ picks for best on the Web this week.

Don’t Close My Tabs:

New York Times: Making a Crypto Utopia in Puerto Rico

New York Times: A Driver’s Suicide Reveals the Dark Side of the Gig Economy

Podcast production by Max Jacobs.

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If Then is presented by Slate and Future Tense, a collaboration among Arizona State University, New America, and Slate. Future Tense explores the ways emerging technologies affect society, policy, and culture. To read more, follow us on Twitter and sign up for our weekly newsletter.


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0:00.0

Welcome to If Then, the show about how technology is changing our lives and our future.

0:09.9

I'm Will Oremus.

0:11.1

And I'm April Glazer.

0:20.8

Hey everyone, welcome to If Then. We're coming to you from Slate and Future Tense, a partnership

0:25.2

between Slate, Arizona State University, and New American. We're recording this on the afternoon

0:30.3

of Tuesday, February 6th. On today's show, we'll talk about a new anti-tech lobbying group,

0:36.2

formed by, of all people, former Facebook and Google

0:39.1

employees. We'll also discuss the big trial that's happening this week in San Francisco.

0:44.3

Waymo, which was Google's early self-driving car effort, now spun off under its parent company

0:49.0

Alphabet, is accusing rival Uber of stealing trade secrets in the winner-take-all race for self-driving supremacy.

0:56.1

Later, we'll be joined by Marcy Wheeler, an independent journalist and longtime expert on the ins and

1:01.4

ounce of FISA. That's the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which has been in the news

1:05.9

a ton in recent weeks with regard to a controversial memo, the Nunes memo. Republicans say it calls into question

1:12.4

the legitimacy of the federal investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

1:18.0

And lastly, don't close my tabs, our picks for the best on the web this week.

1:22.2

All right, Will, how's it going this week? It's going well. It's another busy Tuesday in the tech

1:27.3

world. While we were

1:28.6

recording, actually, I just saw that two SpaceX booster rockets landed in perfect synchrony in what

1:35.5

appears to have been a successful launch of the Falcon Heavy rocket. This is a big deal, I think.

1:40.8

Yeah, it's been really exciting to watch the private space industry really come into its own.

1:46.6

You know, SpaceX has certainly launched a ton of rockets in the past 12 months.

1:51.2

So, you know, today was a big day because the Falcon Heavy, you know, they weren't sure how it was going to go, but it seems like it went well.

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