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What Next | She Was Tortured. America Shut Her Out.

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🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Since January, the Trump administration has suspended the right to claim asylum at the southern border. One narrower form of protection—for those who had been tortured by their governments—was supposed to remain. But lawyers have realized that even that appears to be gone. Guest:  Mark Betancourt, freelance reporter covering immigration from DC, who wrote “This Ethiopian Woman Was Tortured by Her Government. The US is Sending Her Home Anyway” for KQED. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Isabel Angell, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:10.9

There are plenty of ways you can measure how far the Trump administration's gone when it comes to immigration.

1:17.2

You can add up the executive orders that are remaking homeland security, or scroll through video after video of ICE agents shoving people into cars. You can count up the hundreds of people

1:24.1

who've been shipped off to far away countries. But I called up reporter Mark

1:29.0

Bettencourt because he's been uncovering a story that's harder to see. And it revolves around a

1:35.9

single person. So she's from Ethiopia. She basically accidentally witnessed the Ethiopian military

1:43.2

executing a group of people and was imprisoned.

1:47.6

They basically arrested her, took her to a detention center, and tortured her for more than a week.

1:53.9

We're going to keep this woman anonymous, but you can understand why she fled Ethiopia, right?

1:59.8

She felt threatened by her own government.

2:03.3

Where is she now?

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