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🗓️ 4 June 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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0:00.0 | Journalist Isaac Saul is painfully aware of a growing list of anti-Semitic crimes that have taken place since October 7, 2023. |
0:17.6 | He keeps track of them, week after week. |
0:23.1 | Shocking news from Washington that you're waking up to. |
0:26.2 | Last night, two Israeli embassy staff members were shot and killed |
0:29.6 | as they left an event at the Capitol Jewish Museum. |
0:33.6 | A couple weeks ago, there was the murder of two Israeli embassy employees, a young couple. |
0:39.7 | They were about to be married. |
0:42.9 | The suspect chanted free, free Palestine while in custody. |
0:50.5 | This weekend, a group of Jews in Boulder, Colorado, got set on fire. |
0:57.2 | It happened at a weekly gathering to support Israeli hostages in Gaza. |
1:01.8 | FBI investigators say the man had a makeshift flame thrower and hurled devices into that group. |
1:10.5 | Yeah, it feels like we're in a really scary and tenuous place right now. |
1:20.1 | Isaac runs a website called Tangle. |
1:22.9 | Its whole mission is finding a way to talk across political divides. |
1:29.4 | And as part of that, he's been pretty transparent about who he is. For the last couple of years, he said he identifies as a Zionist. |
1:36.9 | It's colored how he sees the war in Gaza and everything that's followed, including these attacks. |
1:43.5 | He understands the fear that anti-Semitism can ignite. |
1:47.8 | You know, somebody literally lit the Pennsylvania governor's house on fire with his family inside |
1:52.7 | in like an anti-Zionist act. |
1:56.3 | These things are, like, they are the reason why Zionism exists. And when I see them and process |
2:05.1 | them, I feel a strong pull toward the notion that a Jewish state is necessary and worth defending |
2:12.9 | and worth fighting for. I mean, it's kind of this weird cycle that we're in and the way these two |
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