What Next - SCOTUS Might Actually Let Trans Kids on the Field
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🗓️ 21 January 2026
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Summary
The Supreme Court heard arguments over state-level bans on trans athletes competing in public schools last week. Though it’s hard to imagine the conservative-majority court calling the bans “discriminatory,” trans athletes and allies have reason to hope for a narrow ruling, rather than an expansion of the existing laws.
Guest: Kate Sosin, LGBTQ+ reporter for The 19th.
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| 0:00.0 | Last week, Kate Sossin wasn't exactly sure what to expect out of the Supreme Court. |
| 0:15.3 | Kate reports for the 19th, covers gender. |
| 0:18.7 | They were tuning in because the court was considering gender too, specifically, |
| 0:23.6 | the cases of two trans girls who are trying to participate in sports. |
| 0:28.5 | At the Supreme Court, the justice has grappled this week with questions of discrimination |
| 0:32.4 | and how to ensure fair competition. You may have heard about these cases. |
| 0:39.2 | One plaintiff here is a high schooler. |
| 0:42.1 | The other wanted to join a college running club. |
| 0:48.2 | Both live in states that ban trans athletes from competition unless they join the team aligned with their birth gender. |
| 0:50.1 | The court's being asked to decide whether that's fair. |
| 0:53.5 | This case has really big implications. |
| 0:55.0 | There are 27 states that currently have these types of similar laws on the book. |
| 0:59.0 | So any way that the court goes here will have major implications nationwide. |
| 1:05.0 | What did you make of what you saw? |
| 1:08.0 | You know, for a lot of it, I'll be honest and tell you that I was confused, |
| 1:13.7 | but sorting through it, I did find myself surprised because it felt like the justices were deeply |
| 1:20.7 | engaging with issues about transgender athletes in a way that I did not expect. |
| 1:30.0 | Huh. Like they really wanted to talk about this issue. Yes. And while the lawyers kept misgendering transgender women as like, you know, men in |
| 1:37.3 | sports and boys wanting to play, the justices, even the conservative justices, did not. |
| 1:45.1 | And so I was like, this seems like it's going not the way that I expected. |
| 1:51.1 | As Kate listened, some justices did openly fret about whether trans athletes are taking spots away from their cisgender teammates. |
| 2:00.3 | But as they kept listening, Kate started to hear this differently. |
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