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What Next: Republicans' Stealth Plan to Ban Abortions

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2023

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

A national ban on abortion remains so unpopular that even Republican presidential candidates won’t commit to one. However, a law from the 1870s, depending on how it's interpreted and enforced, could ban both abortion pills and the procedure across America. Guest: Mary Ziegler, law professor at UC Davis and author of Roe: The History of a National Obsession. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I've been listening a lot to the way Republican presidential candidates talk about abortion

0:11.2

these days.

0:12.5

Trying to figure out how they're going to walk a political tightrope.

0:19.9

Their challenge looks like this.

0:22.6

Most Americans do not want abortion to be against the law, but many Republican-based voters

0:29.6

do.

0:30.6

It leads to a lot of awkward conversations.

0:33.8

Well, I don't want unelected justices to be deciding something this personal.

0:38.0

I have long said I am pro-life, not because the Republican Party tells me to be...

0:42.1

This is Nikki Haley, one of the first Republicans to announce her presidential bid.

0:46.8

In a single conversation on CBS last week, she hopped scotched from saying she was pro-life

0:52.8

to saying any kind of abortion ban was simply impossible.

0:55.9

I think we have to tell the American people the truth.

0:58.6

In order to do a national standard, you'd have to have a majority of the House, 60 Senate

1:03.6

votes and a president.

1:05.4

We haven't had 60 pro-life senators in a hundred years.

1:08.6

So even Donald Trump is struggling here.

1:11.4

But if you are re-elected in your back in the Oval Office and you get legislation to your

1:15.6

desk, would you sign a federal abortion ban into law?

1:19.0

What I'll do is negotiate so that people are happy.

1:22.0

Though his approach mostly seems to involve ignoring any questions about abortion.

1:36.7

I called up Mary Ziegler to ask, how exactly is this going to work out for these candidates?

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