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What Next: Putin Is in a Dangerous Spot

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.6 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

With the war turning towards Ukraine’s favor, Vladimir Putin is becoming more isolated and more dangerous. Can Ukrainians expel the Russians—or the Russians expel Putin—while avoiding the worst-case scenario? Guest: Bryan Bender, senior national correspondent for POLITICO. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Vladimir Putin

0:17.0

When Vladimir Putin announced he was annexing parts of Ukraine

0:20.0

last week, he did not skimp on the showmanship.

0:29.0

He emerged on a stage after walking through gigantic golden doors, pulled open by a pair

0:34.2

of goose stepping soldiers.

0:36.8

A packed house was there to hear him speak.

0:39.0

Vladimir Putin no doubt likes the trappings of lack of a better term, dictatorship.

0:48.8

I asked Politico's Brian Bender to sit down and talk about the speech with me.

0:53.3

He is the sole power in Russia and he likes everybody to know that.

0:59.3

And so when he does public events, they're usually big and outsized and everything that

1:05.5

would go with the sort of culture personality.

1:10.0

There was this one moment I wondered if Brian had noticed.

1:13.1

It was when Putin claimed he was scooping up parts of Ukraine because it was the will

1:17.7

of millions of people.

1:19.7

Because it's the will of millions of people.

1:25.8

This is a species claim at best.

1:28.8

But it didn't matter.

1:30.4

It was as if one of those old-time applause signs had gone off.

1:34.8

And the studio audience knew just what to do.

1:38.0

Well, you know, this is not unlike any, you know, I'm one who tries to avoid historical

1:42.9

analogies because they're never perfect.

1:46.5

But a bunch of people last week were raising Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

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