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What Next - Putin Alone

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4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

No one knows what’s going on in Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s head – and while that’s a worrisome idea during the best of times, it’s an especially grim one during a war of his own creation. Putin is increasingly isolated, away from his inner circle and the oligarchs who once had some influence with him. 


Guest: Ben Judah is a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and the author of This Is London and Fragile Empire: How Russia Fell In and Out of Love With Vladimir Putin.


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Back in January, there was this moment where Ben Judah thought there is something wrong

0:42.3

with Vladimir Putin. Ben has written a book about Putin. So he was watching official

0:52.1

Kremlin video of the president celebrating Orthodox Christmas. The video shows only Putin

0:58.8

himself, totally alone, listening to a religious service, lighting candles.

1:05.2

And it's really a haunting video that we will see in many documentaries, far into the future,

1:12.0

of this one man completely alone in a gold-clad chapel. His legs buckling slightly as if

1:19.8

he's unwell. He kind of gulps. He like gulps and his face is red. And his face twitches

1:30.4

very strangely.

1:33.8

What stood out to Ben was how isolated Putin looked. Ever since the pandemic started, Russia's

1:39.9

president has kept to himself. You might have seen those pictures of him, meeting with other

1:44.3

world leaders. Putin's on one side of an extremely long table. His counterparts are yards

1:49.9

away. Has Putin always been alone like this?

1:54.2

Are the answers no?

1:59.0

Vladimir Putin has been in power almost 23 years. That's a generation. There are millions

2:06.0

and millions of Russians that have never known the country without him. Over time, if we

2:12.2

look at the political science, popular strongmen tend to turn into leaders of authoritarian regimes.

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