What Next | No, Women Didn't Ruin the Workplace

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🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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It didn’t take long to go from Beyoncé holding for applause in front of the word “FEMINISM” to a headline in the New York Times asking “Did Women Ruin the Workplace?” How long is this backlash going to last? Guest: Danielle Kurtzleben, political correspondent at NPR. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?
0:04.2	Not much to it, is there?
0:06.2	Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.
0:10.9	Mmm, that is good.
0:12.9	Now that's what Asani should sound like.
0:15.8	Go all crisp in with walkers.
0:19.0	Delicious.
0:21.6	5am.
0:23.6	You wake up with a jolt
0:25.0	after a nightmare that your business was hit by a fraud attack in the night.
0:29.5	This is the moment you choose to relax,
0:31.9	knowing that Barclay card payments is helping to prevent fraud 24-7.
0:36.4	So you can go back to counting sheep, not pounds.
0:41.6	That's how we're protecting your business.
0:44.2	Barclay card payments.
0:46.1	Terms and conditions apply.
0:47.1	See barclaycar.com.ukh forward slash business for details.
0:59.1	Earlier this week, I did a little archival digging,
1:03.4	just to remind myself of a moment that seems quaint now, antiquated,
1:06.6	the moment when girl bosses were on the rise,
1:10.7	and girl bosses wanted more girl bosses by their side.
1:12.7	And the problem is this.
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