What Next - How Pelosi Holds the Line on Impeachment
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🗓️ 19 June 2019
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s political philosophy is an elegant one: If you want to do something bold, you must follow public sentiment, not lead it. Now why can’t House Democrats seem to shape public sentiment? And what makes them so afraid to cross their caucus leader?
Guest: Rachael Bade, Congress reporter for the Washington Post.
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| 0:00.0 | Rachel Bade reports for the Washington Post on Capitol Hill. |
| 0:08.4 | Spends a lot of time in Congress. |
| 0:10.5 | And lately, she's been getting frustrated, hearing how some pundits like to talk about Nancy Pelosi and impeachment. |
| 0:17.8 | Every time there's a new person that comes out in support of impeachment, and we |
| 0:21.5 | even saw it last night, people freak out and say, oh my gosh, more Democrats are supporting |
| 0:26.1 | impeachment. Does this mean they're wrenching toward it? Is she Nancy Pelosi feeling pressure? |
| 0:32.3 | And it's by people who don't really either know Pelosi or don't really know how the caucus works. |
| 0:40.2 | Because, you know, for my reporting, even if a majority of the Democrats support it, |
| 0:45.9 | she's unlikely to change her mind from my understanding and talking to people who are very close with her. |
| 0:54.4 | There's this one story that really stuck with Rachel about what happened when Pelosi's caucus |
| 1:00.4 | tried to outmaneuver her last month. |
| 1:03.3 | The president had just blocked White House lawyer Don McGahn from testifying in front of the House |
| 1:08.0 | Judiciary Committee. |
| 1:09.6 | And for Jerry Nadler, this was a real breaking point. |
| 1:12.8 | He'd gone so far as to make a pact with other members of his committee. |
| 1:16.6 | If McGahn doesn't show, we'll call for impeachment. |
| 1:19.8 | And Pelosi sort of saw the writing on the wall that people were about to make a big public push for this. |
| 1:27.3 | And she sent either notes or sort of button |
| 1:31.5 | hold other top leaders and we're like, we need to have a meeting with Jerry Nadler right now, |
| 1:36.2 | tonight. And so she summoned Jerry Nadler, who's the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, to a meeting in her office. |
| 1:47.7 | I think it was like 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock at night and basically confronted him. |
| 1:54.5 | And had all of her fellow leaders sort of gang up on him, like a six-on-one sort of meeting where Jerry Nadler was |
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