Lauren's Carter is a bit of a ghost. I went looking for a picture of you online before

we spoke. I couldn't find one and I had to wonder if that was intentional.

That is intentional.

Lauren's works at Greenpeace UK, but he's an investigative journalist and he's not afraid

to call his latest reporting, a sting operation.

Yeah, and undercover sting and undercover investigation. I'm not precious about what we

call that. Yeah, you can call that sting.

This sting was focused on Exxon mobile, one of the largest oil companies in the world,

posing as a headhunter. Lauren's learned two men who'd worked as big oil lobbyists

into Zoom meetings. Then he pressed record.

Did we aggressively fight against some of the science? Yes.

It's eerie to look at this footage Lauren's obtained. In the same Anadine Zoom rooms,

all of us have been working in over the last year and a half, we see these lobbyists

admit to political maneuverings both basic and shocking.

Did we join some of these shadow groups to work against some of the early efforts? Yes,

that's true. But there's nothing illegal about that.

Over hours of conversation, the lobbyists reveal that even a position that seems environmentally

friendly, like Exxon's support of a carbon tax, might be nothing more than a stalling

tactic. Nobody is going to impose a tax on all Americans. In the cynical side of me,

says, we kind of know that, but it gives us a talk to a point that we can say, well,

what is Exxon mobile for? We're for a carbon tax. No, it's not going to happen.

It's a way in which they can claim to be for action on climate change, whilst opposing

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