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🗓️ 6 February 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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| 0:31.8 | Earlier this week, a military jet touched down on a sunny landing strip in Cuba. |
| 0:42.2 | Inside were prisoners, migrant prisoners. |
| 0:45.8 | They were handcuffed in matching gray sweatsuits. |
| 0:49.3 | The first of what Donald Trump says could be tens of thousands of immigrants being relocated to a detention center |
| 0:56.2 | that Americans have been trying to close for more than a decade now. That detention center, |
| 1:02.6 | of course, is Guantanamo Bay. I got word of it, and on the one hand, it seemed like a shock, as I hope it feels to everybody. |
| 1:12.6 | But also, I've kind of been expecting this moment for about 10 years. |
| 1:19.6 | I called up Andrea Pitzer to talk about all this, because she's got thoughts on Guantanamo Bay. |
| 1:27.3 | She wrote a book on concentration camps. |
| 1:31.0 | She says Gitmo is one. |
| 1:33.9 | We just don't call it that very often. |
| 1:36.5 | And I ended up deciding to open and close my book with Guantanamo |
| 1:41.2 | because I felt like it was this looming background thing that if we did not get it closed, |
| 1:48.9 | had the potential to become an ongoing, enormous, horrific nightmare. |
| 1:56.4 | Theoretically, these migrants are being relocated to Gitmo because they are really bad guys, too dangerous to stay in the U.S. |
| 2:05.7 | This first group was said to be members of a Venezuelan gang. |
| 2:09.3 | That's according to the Secretary of Homeland Security and Trump's borders are. |
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