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Rob, everyone loves a deal and a bargain from time to time, don't they? Absolutely, mate. And you know where you can grab a great deal? Talk to me. Where? The eBay app. Yes, you are correct. You didn't need to talk to me. I already knew it. I love eBay. When you're buying, you can discover loads of hidden gems. There's so many items where you think I would have never found that anywhere else.

Then when you're selling, it's so simple and most importantly, free.

It's free, Rob.

When it's this easy to sell for free and there's great deals on things you love, you can't help but say when it's eBay.

It excludes vehicles and business sellers.

So, Nikki, can I call you a vampire?

I mean, since we're friends.

Nikki Twilly is a reporter over at The New Yorker.

She also hosts a podcast called Gastropod. So it makes sense that she likes to taste things, including blood, sort of.

You've actually tasted synthetic blood?

Yes, I have chugged a shot of synthetic blood.

I don't think you can call me a real vampire, only a fake vampire, which is a synthetic vampire, if you will.

Still a vampire.

But an artificial one.

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