What Next - Congress’s Purge Era
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🗓️ 23 April 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Representatives Eric Swalwell, Tony Gonzales, and now Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick are out; Virginia is redistricting and Republicans are bracing for a tsunami of a blue wave in the fall midterms. What’s gotten into Congress all of a sudden?
Guest: Jim Newell, Slate’s senior politics writer.
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| 0:00.0 | Slate's Jim Newell covers Congress. |
| 0:08.9 | And when I asked him the other day how that was going, he said this. |
| 0:14.6 | Justice has been served. |
| 0:20.4 | Justice has been served. |
| 0:22.6 | Maybe not with the best way, but, you know, there was some members who have been having a lot of ethics problems recently and a house cleaning was due. |
| 0:35.0 | And that's happened. |
| 0:39.3 | House cleaning is one way to put it. Another way is that three Congresspeople find themselves suddenly out of their jobs. |
| 0:45.3 | California Democrat Eric Swalwell was the first to go, |
| 0:48.3 | and Texas Republican Tony Gonzalez followed close behind. |
| 0:52.3 | A couple days later, Florida Congresswoman Sheila Sherfilis McCormick was out too. |
| 0:58.5 | All three were under the threat of expulsion, and they chose to resign instead of getting kicked out. |
| 1:10.3 | I mean, up until now, the most high-profile case of a congressperson being forced out was George Santos, the New York congressman who was accused of fraud, lying about his background. |
| 1:21.1 | But I just feel like in the last couple of weeks, things have been supercharged. |
| 1:27.0 | Have you seen a wave of resignations and threats of expulsion like this before? |
| 1:33.1 | No, I haven't. |
| 1:34.2 | Not in this quick, rapid succession. |
| 1:36.4 | And I mean, not even really since Santos. |
| 1:39.3 | I don't know if anyone else has even come that close. |
| 1:43.0 | Does this mean we have more rotten eggs in Congress, or does it mean we have more |
| 1:47.7 | accountability for Congress people? |
| 1:51.8 | I don't necessarily think that there are more rotten eggs. I think part of it is a function |
| 1:58.2 | of problems accruing because of how narrow the majority is. |
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