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What Next: China’s Zero-COVID Policy

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🗓️ 19 May 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

When China first instituted its zero-COVID policy, it was a success: as other countries struggled with soaring infection rates and overburdened hospitals, life for many Chinese citizens began to look normal again within months—so long as they weren’t infected. But the omicron variant changed the game. Now, people are speaking out against draconian lockdown measures they say are inappropriate to face the current level of threat. How did zero-COVID evolve from being the most effective virus prevention strategy in the world to a disproportionate and punitive system? And how has that evolution expanded state control? Guest: Dake Kang, journalist in the Beijing bureau of the Associated Press. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you were to walk me down the streets of Shanghai right now, what would it be like?

0:41.9

It sounds like you have friends there. I have quite a few friends there, I think.

0:45.5

Date Kang reports on China for the Associated Press. I think if you walk down the streets of Shanghai,

0:51.2

it would be very quiet. For most of the condens, some people from Shanghai kind of had this attitude of,

1:00.8

oh, look at the rest of China, they have such crude COVID controls, but we don't have to deal with

1:06.8

that kind of stuff. Not anymore, because for the last month, Shanghai has been in varying degrees

1:19.8

of coronavirus lockdown as COVID surged. The authorities say those lockdowns are getting lifted

1:26.8

now, but even so. In theory, the Shanghai government might let you out in your compound,

1:33.6

or you might even be allowed out on the streets and go shopping or out for walks in kind of a limited

1:40.4

fashion. But in practice, people I talked to in that last category who in theory are supposed

1:47.2

to be able to go out aren't really being allowed to go out. What happens when they try?

1:53.3

Yeah, their local neighborhood committees are often paranoid. Their number one priority is keep

2:00.7

COVID cases to zero. And the people who are testing positive, they get sent to citywide quarantine

2:07.7

centers to wait the virus out. We talked to a few of these people in these kind of mass quarantine

2:14.1

centers and the situation sounded kind of grim for them. How do the authorities even know you

2:20.1

tested positive? Well, so every day Shanghai, all Shanghai residents are being ordered to

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