What Next: Beyond Biden vs. Trump

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4.6 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2023

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

America’s winner-take-all electoral system casts third-party candidates as spoilers—but what would it take to open the door to not just a third party, but a fourth or more? Guest: Lee Drutman, senior fellow in the Political Reform program at New America, author of Breaking the Two-Party Doom Loop. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:47.0	Lee, when you look around to your options for the upcoming 2024 election,
0:51.0	how do you feel?
0:56.0	I feel frightened, depressed, frustrated, confused.
1:06.0	There's a certain eorish quality to the way Lee Drupman talks about the 2024 presidential field right now,
1:14.0	which is strange, because he's a political scientist.
1:18.0	It's a lot of time between now and 2024,
1:21.0	but if it's Biden and Trump again, as it likely will be,
1:25.0	terrified of Trump, and I'm anxious about Biden,
1:30.0	and I think a lot of people feel the same way.
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