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What Next | Are Airplane Crashes Inevitable?

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.6 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

America hadn’t had a major commercial airline crash since 2009 until the mid-air collision over the Potomac. Is this a sign of a larger problem that will require government intervention—and will Congress prioritize safety over convenience for their constituents and themselves?   You can read Dan’s 2023 article, “Everyone Seems to Agree a Major Plane Crash is Coming. Why?” on Slate. Guest: Dan Kois, writer at Slate and author of five books. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:40.1

In the days since an American Airlines flight collided with a Black Hawk helicopter

0:45.2

over the Potomac River, killing dozens, there's this one fact I can't stop thinking

0:51.2

about. It's been 15 years since a crash like this happened.

0:59.6

Fifteen years ago, the iPhone was essentially brand new.

1:04.2

Barack Obama had just been elected president.

1:06.9

It seems like a lifetime ago.

1:09.0

And that means a couple of things.

1:11.0

First, we haven't responded as a country to a big random accident like this one in a while.

1:17.4

But it also means some experts had been waiting for this moment, dreading it.

1:23.6

A year and a half ago, Slate's Dan Cois wrote an article titled,

1:27.4

Everyone seems to agree a major plane crash is coming.

1:31.8

We're overdue, one pilot told him.

1:36.8

You must have been thinking about that article as soon as you heard that this crash had taken place.

1:42.3

I was thinking about all the pilots that I talked to for that article.

1:46.5

Dan lives just a few miles away from Reagan National Airport.

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