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What Next: Amicus: Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson Gives SCOTUS a History Lesson

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🗓️ 10 October 2022

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

What Next is still enjoying the three-day weekend, so we proudly present this special episode of Amicus. Dahlia Lithwick is joined by two key players from this week’s consequential voting rights cases at the US Supreme Court. The NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund’s senior counsel Deuel Ross argued part of Merrill v Milligan at the High Court on Tuesday, and Evan Milligan of Alabama Forward is the named plaintiff in one of a pair of cases that argued that Alabama’s congressional maps are racially gerrymandered in violation of Section II of the Voting Rights Act. They take listeners inside the arguments, and provide vital context for the challenges faced by residents of Alabama’s Black Belt in accessing healthcare, infrastructure and not coincidentally, political representation. Next, Dahlia is joined by Sam Sankar, Senior Vice President of Programs at Earth Justice to discuss what went down in Sackett v EPA, a case argued Monday that could have wide-ranging effects on the waters and wetlands of the United States. In this week’s Amicus Plus segment, Dahlia is joined by Mark Joseph Stern to talk about the new dynamics of arguments with Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson taking her seat at the High Court, the conservative reaction to their favorite text and history rubric being applied by the first African American woman on the court (huh, they don’t love it?), and what to expect from a new filing in the Mar A Lago investigation that’s on its way to 1, First Street. Sign up for Slate Plus now to listen and support our show. Dahlia’s new book Lady Justice: Women, the Law and the Battle to Save America, is also available as an audiobook, and Amicus listeners can get a 25% discount by entering the code “AMICUS” at checkout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, happy three day weekend.

0:02.7

The show is taking a little time off, but we didn't want you to miss out.

0:06.7

So I'm about to share another great slate podcast you can listen to right now.

0:10.7

The podcast is Amicus, it's hosted by my friend, Dolly Lithwick.

0:14.2

With the new Supreme Court term opening last week, I knew she would have a ton to say.

0:19.2

This week's show takes you inside the chamber for arguments in a pair of cases that could

0:23.2

have a profound impact on the Voting Rights Act, which of course the court has been

0:27.6

whittling away at for years.

0:29.8

But enough of me on with a show.

0:32.4

Oh, and when you're done, go and over and subscribe to Amicus.

0:36.2

It'll pop into your earbuds every other Saturday and you can find it wherever you listen.

0:41.2

Here's Dollyya.

0:45.6

The framers themselves adopted the equal protection clause, the 14th amendment, the 15th amendment

0:51.8

in a race conscious way.

0:54.1

If we draw racially jerrymandered districts, particularly in a place where you have a

0:58.8

small elite group that has cultivated a sociology of racial polarization to benefit themselves

1:04.7

economically.

1:05.7

It seems to me that you're coming here and totally you're right to do it, but really

1:10.3

saying change the way we look at Section 2 and its application.

1:14.8

You create districts where you basically have white candidates who have to compete as

1:21.4

a zero-sub game for the largest number of white votes.

1:24.9

The only explicit reference to race in the Constitution is in the 15th amendment, which

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