A Bipartisan Border Wall?
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🗓️ 11 October 2023
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
President Biden’s administration announced plans to resume construction of a wall on the southern border, contradicting a contrast then-candidate Joe Biden drew between himself and his opponent in 2020,
Guest: Muzaffar Chishti, senior fellow at the Migration Policy Institute at NYU’s School of Law
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| 0:00.0 | Who wants a wall at the southern border? If you'd ask me that question a year ago, |
| 0:11.5 | even a month ago, I think I would have known how to answer it. I'd say former President Trump does, |
| 0:17.3 | and a big chunk of his voters, A whole lot of congressional Republicans, too. |
| 0:22.1 | But until last week, I would not have included the Biden administration on that list. |
| 0:27.7 | Then I started getting push alerts. |
| 0:32.2 | A new effort to build a border wall tonight coming from an unexpected place. |
| 0:37.7 | The same Joe Biden who campaigned on a promise that not a foot of wall would be constructed during his administration. |
| 0:44.6 | He seems to have changed his mind. |
| 0:47.3 | Sort of. |
| 0:47.8 | On Wednesday, the Biden administration formally waived 26 federal laws to allow 20 miles of construction in South Texas where illegal crossings have surged. |
| 0:58.6 | At the White House today, President Biden said he still thinks a wall won't work, but he argued Congress gave him no choice. |
| 1:06.6 | Once I got over my initial shock, I was back at one basic question. |
| 1:13.0 | Do border walls work? |
| 1:15.0 | Well, that's a good question to start with. |
| 1:17.9 | You know, I think all evidence shows that border walls, as a rule, do not work. |
| 1:24.7 | All evidence. |
| 1:26.3 | All evidence. |
| 1:27.9 | Muzafar Chisti is a senior fellow at the Migration Policy Institute, which means he's used |
| 1:33.9 | to migration policy swinging back and forth. |
| 1:37.1 | And I think it's important to add he's not against limiting who gets led into the United |
| 1:41.9 | States. |
| 1:43.2 | He just thinks a wall is not the way to get there. |
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