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On with Kara Swisher

What Makes A Man? Richard Reeves on Addressing the Struggles Facing Boys and Men

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

4.23.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Are boys and men in crisis? Kara tackles the "male malaise" head-on with Richard Reeves, founding president of the American Institute for Boys and Men and author of "Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male is Struggling, Why it Matters and What to Do About It."  Kara and Richard explore the challenges they face and their implications for society at large. Those challenges include the political vacuum allowing right-wing voices to dominate the conversation, the loss of male role models in education and care services, and the profound impact of smartphones, social media, and artificial intelligence on male identity. They also explore solutions that will benefit boys and men without  undermining the progress made by women and girls. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Look at you in your smart glasses.

0:02.4

Yeah, I'm trying to look clever.

0:03.8

Trying to look more intelligent?

0:05.5

Very much so.

0:19.9

Hi, everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:21.5

This is on with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher.

0:24.7

In recent weeks, I've had a number of conversations about how young people are navigating the world with smartphones, social media, and now artificial intelligence.

0:32.6

I'm going to continue along those lines with my guest today, Richard Reeves.

0:36.0

The man, my pivot co-host, Scott Galloway, calls his Sensei and Jedi Master. Okay, that's weird, but Reeves probably deserves some of that credit. He is the founding president of the American Institute for Boys and Men, and he's the author of several books, including his seminal work of boys and men, why the modern male is struggling,

0:55.9

why it matters, and what to do about it. The book highlights some disturbing statistics about the

1:00.8

crisis they're facing, which we'll get into in our conversation. Reeve says they are all signs of a,

1:06.6

quote, male malaise that is having life and death impacts. This issue has become a major

1:12.7

talking point since the last election when more than half of men under 30 voted for Donald

1:17.4

Trump. Reeves has criticized Democrats for not adequately addressing these issues and effectively

1:22.8

seating the floor to right-wing social media influencers. I don't know Reeves as well as Scott does,

1:28.8

but I met him, well, two years ago, three years ago, and I've thought a lot about his theories.

1:33.5

There's a lot of what's wrong with men stuff around, and I think he's one of the more interesting

1:38.1

voices in the sector, and there are more to come and a lot more. And in fact, Scott has a

1:43.1

book on this coming out in the fall.

1:45.8

I'm looking forward to talking to Richard about the identity crisis boys and men are facing and the solutions he's proposing.

1:52.5

I also want to hear what he thinks about smartphones and social media and whether AI will exacerbate the situation.

1:58.9

Our expert question today comes from Lauren Greenfeld,

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