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Fearless with Cissie Graham Lynch

What Makes a Healthy Church? with Skip Heitzig

Fearless with Cissie Graham Lynch

Billy Graham Evangelistic Association

Billy Graham, Society & Culture, Bible, Cissie Graham Lynch, Christianity, Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, Christian, God, Franklin Graham, Religion & Spirituality, Fearless

4.8 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Recently I got to take a last-minute trip to Lima, Peru for one of my dad’s crusades—something that, as a mom of three, I don’t always get the chance to do as much as I used to. While we were there I sat down with pastor and longtime family friend, Skip Heitzig. Skip is no stranger to Fearless, but today’s episode felt different. During this candid—and honestly, pretty unplanned—conversation, Skip and I hit on everything from his friendship with my dad and the many adventures in minist...

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Sissy Graham Lynch. Welcome to Fearless, helping you have a fearless faith in a compromising culture.

0:26.7

Welcome back to Fearless. Today's a little bit of a different episode, kind of a last minute when I wanted to do, and I'm in Lima, Peru. This was not on my calendar to be in Peru this week,

0:32.8

but my dad and the team from the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association are here for a crusade.

0:38.1

I was in my dad's office just last week, four days before he left.

0:42.4

And he says, Sissy, do you want to go to Peru with me?

0:45.1

And those invitations now as a mom with three, they don't really come that often.

0:50.2

And I checked with my husband.

0:51.8

He was home that weekend.

0:52.9

He could take care of the kids.

0:53.9

And I just hopped on a plane. And I missed these days. I used to travel with my dad quite a bit. It would be me and him and the team that would go out. And now, of course, with three kids at home, that doesn't happen as much as I wish it did. And we're here. He has a crusade. Last night was the first night.

1:13.1

41,000 people were there. And it just never gets old, never gets old seeing people surrender their

1:21.1

lives to Christ and be a part of the kingdom of God. But we're here and I'm always thankful for our

1:26.5

team. And part of that team is Skip Hezick. And Skip is no stranger to fearless. He's been on here many times. Skip is lead pastor of Calvary Albuquerque. And when I'm with you, Skip, I always want the opportunity for other people to hear you. And so thank you for agreeing to do this last minute. Thank you for that.

1:44.4

And it's always a joy. You're fun to talk to. And this is an incredible event to be at.

1:50.0

It's a beautiful city we're in. So the Lord set it up. Skip for the last few years. I would think

1:57.0

just a few years, you really become part of our team. You've been one of dad's lifelong friends.

2:02.9

Y'all have done ministry.

2:03.7

You started in ministry kind of together, the young guys, your pastor and dad was Samaritan's purse.

2:08.5

I got a front row seat to see y'all's friendship over the years.

2:12.5

And as I get older, I just don't take that lightly the friends that God put in my dad's life.

2:18.8

And you are one of those pivotal figures in his life that I think of.

2:23.4

But in recent years, you've been a part of our team coming to do the devotions for our team.

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