I want to go to Dr. Debbie next, Phil.

Okay.

Dr. Debbie, what were your feelings as Olivia Gonzalez was giving that presentation?

Wow. Sergeant Bill, if I could, I would stand up and give her a standing ovation.

I mean, each person who spoke had depth, had emotion, had meaning, but there was something

about Olivia and her tenacity, her courage, her word choice was just so spot on. And a lot of the

verbiage that she used, I think it actually hit home with this monster.

You know, again, we're talking about a psychopath, an individual who is evil, who is homicidal, who has zero emotion.

We saw it. We are almost questioning, is this truly a human being? To be a human, you have to have

some level of humanity, which he has zero. However, I think the way Olivia spoke, and particularly

in terms of his failures, and him being a loser, and just his place and space and life, which is nowhere,

nobody cares about him. He is unimportant. I think, even though we didn't see a flinch, I believe

she got through to him and those will be the things that he will be thinking about. Remember, he's obsessive

compulsive. I have no doubt in my mind. I've said this to Sergeant Bill, you know, two and a half,

almost three years ago, that every single day from November 13th through the present, he is

absolutely obsessing about that knife sheath,

and that was colossal mistake number one.

It's not as though that was the only mistake.

That was the first mistake.

And then multiply that by now dozens of things we've come to find out.

But I just think that all of these families

really spoke beautifully with the the heart and soul for their children to honor their children

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