What Legal Remedies Are Available in the Guthrie, Kepner, and Spencer Cases?
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 27 May 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
Criminal defense attorney Bob Motta provides legal analysis across three active criminal matters in a single session.In the Nancy Guthrie disappearance, no arrest has been made and no suspect has been publicly identified. The Pima County Board of Supervisors referred perjury allegations against Sheriff Nanos to the Arizona Attorney General. The sheriff's deputies voted unanimously in a no-confidence measure. DNA evidence remains in processing at the FBI laboratory. Motta addresses the family's legal remedies, including the viability of compelling an outside investigative review.In the Timothy Hudson federal prosecution, the defendant was indicted on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated sexual abuse in the death of Anna Kepner aboard the Carnival Horizon. Hudson, sixteen, is being tried as an adult. The trial was continued from June 1st to September 8th. He entered a not guilty plea and requested a jury trial. Motta evaluates the defense's available strategies when surveillance evidence reportedly depicts the defendant as the sole individual accessing the relevant stateroom.In the Aaron Spencer second-degree murder case, the June 22nd trial date is set before Judge Ralph Wilson, who replaced the removed Judge Elmore. The defense filed a motion to dismiss based on law enforcement's loss of a dashcam SD card. Wilson reversed prior rulings on reputation testimony and expert witness admissibility. Motta assesses the procedural posture, the viability of dismissal or spoliation remedies, and whether the prosecution's pretrial position supports charge modification.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Green. |
| 0:08.7 | More than 100 days now since Nancy Guthrie was taken from her Tucson home. |
| 0:13.5 | There's been no arrest, no publicly identified suspect, and the sheriff leading to the investigation just survived a vote to remove him from office. |
| 0:21.2 | The Pima County Board of Supervisors referred perjury allegations against Sheriff Nanos to the state attorney general, but stopped short of pulling him. |
| 0:29.1 | His own deputies voted unanimously that they have no confidence in his leadership. |
| 0:33.4 | The recall effort is underway, but faces a very steep climb over 122,000 signatures needed by July, |
| 0:41.3 | and the family is reportedly frustrated as well, still without a private investigator, |
| 0:47.2 | still relying on the same department that released the crime scene too early, |
| 0:52.2 | routed DNA away from the FBI lab, and installed a homicide |
| 0:55.7 | unit supervisor who had allegedly never worked a homicide. |
| 0:59.4 | That's where we're beginning today. |
| 1:01.5 | Happy, happy, happy beginning of the week, everybody. |
| 1:05.7 | Here, the thing in the bureau said, things that make you go, yeah. |
| 1:08.4 | Hmm. |
| 1:09.1 | Criminal defense attorney Bob Mata is with a host of the podcast Defense Diaries. |
| 1:15.1 | Bob, I mean, there's so much with this case, and there's so much that's not happening |
| 1:19.7 | with this case in a while. |
| 1:20.9 | Everybody's sitting here going, what can be done at this point? |
| 1:25.0 | If you're working for the Guthrie's right now, if the family had come to you |
| 1:30.7 | going, hey, I don't know what our options are, what can we do, if anything? And they hired you at this |
| 1:37.6 | point. What's your first call? What's your first way that you're advising them to get some sort |
| 1:42.8 | attraction going on here and figuring out what |
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