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this is not the episode we were gonna bring you this week we taped that one last week

it was a big look back at the year in AI Kevin Roos in the New York Times really helped us sort of walk through the hype cycle, reality. It was great. And now we can't use it because of the events of the last week. And so Kevin has graciously agreed to come back again. He's on no sleep. He may collapse during the podcast. That could be a good episode. Welcome back, Kevin. That'd be great content. Yeah, If I just start snoring during the podcast, that could be a good episode. Welcome back, Kevin. That'd be great content. Yeah,

if I just start snoring during the podcast, just wake me up, okay? It's a good clip, at least.

We're recording this at 134 on Monday, November 20, if things could change by the time you hear this.

But Kevin, let's do some really basic stuff. Who is the CEO of OpenAI right now?

As of this moment, and as you said, things can change by the minute, it seems like.

So as of this moment, the CEO of OpenAI is Emmett Shear.

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