Welcome to Off Message. I'm Isaac Dover.

Hello, thank you for coming. I'd like to start by answering the question that's on everyone's mind.

Yes, this is real life. This is really happening.

Today's episode, fake presidents. So the guests, Alec Baldwin, talking about playing President Trump,

and his new whole fake biography of him, and Bradley Whitford, best known still as Josh Lyman on the Westway.

I talked by phone to Baldwin, and in the separate conversation, his co-author, Kurt Anderson,

about their new book, You Can't Spell America Without Me, the really tremendous inside story

of my fantastic first year's president. That's the whole title. That gives you a sense of the book,

which is part parody, novel, pseudo-history, all thrown into one. Plus lots of pictures of Baldwin in the full Trump gear, outside of Trump Tower, and at a spot that they made up to look like the White House for more shoots. What's it like living for so long inside of the head of a guy he disagrees with so much politically. What has over a year of playing President Trump

taught him about his subject? And of course, where would Jack Donegie stand on Trump? We covered it all.

Then I asked Anderson about the writing process with Baldwin and why he chose to have this fake history

and with the president having what's basically a mental breakdown barricaded in his apartment in Trump Tower.

Spoiler alert, these two are not big fans of President Trump.

Then we'll go to Bradley Whitford, who talked about what it's like inspiring a whole generation of young political operatives to get into the business.

And what would have happened if they'd pitched a Trump-like character in what he calls the liberal porn factory of the

West Wing Writers' Room. Now, in addition to his acting, he's one of the faces of a new

Obamacare promotion organization, Get America Covered, now that open enrollment is going on. He also

talked about how the election has shifted, how he gets involved. This comment from him, as a

politically active but proud member

of the Hollywood elite, really stuck out to me. He said, the right understands what I believe to be

the truth, which is that politics is the way you create your moral vision. The left, and certainly

Hollywood, thinks culture is the way you create your moral vision. And my frustration is I want the

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