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I think the very first time I saw you was some YouTube clips of you taking questions on woke subjects from college kids.

And that's probably, you and I've been friends for almost 10 years.

So that's probably 10 or 15 years ago, some of those clips the first time I saw them.

And I think it was Rachel was at the lakehouse. She said, you've got to see this, Ben Shapiro,

man. Look at what he's doing.

Ben Shapiro, Rex, destroyed. But one of the things that struck me with that, and I think one of the things that's appealing about those clips and even about your show, and sometimes we get it on our stuff, but we're a little, a little different take on it, is this sense that it's like your pulse rate doesn't change on these things.

You know, there's this thing of of you're, I want to say not

afraid, but that's not it. You don't get amped up at all. It's almost as if when you're

debating someone, you're toying with them. You're a chess master and you've seen four moves

ahead and they're done, so we're going to go ahead and enjoy the ride. You know, that kind of a thing is the way it feels. Have you always been that way? Or did you

develop that confidence as you did it more? I think some of both. I think you get better at it,

the more you do it. And there are times where you still have to remind yourself to stay calm,

depending on how inflammatory the topic you're taking on is. I remember just this year when I went to

Oxford University in the aftermath of October 7th. And obviously, I know people whose family members

are kidnapped in the Gaza Strip. I know multiple families who have lost family or soldiers in

Gaza. I know many people right now who are serving in Lebanon. So I have, you know, a pretty close stake in that particular conflict and in October 7th and all the rest. And I was,

you know, facing down students who actively were calling for the destruction of the state of

Israel and defending Hamas and Qazbollah and all this. Going in, I kind of had to say to

myself, listen, just stay calm. Just stay calm. Just don't get angry. Just stay calm. That's fairly rare. I tend to be more analytic. There's sort of a mode that I go

into. And this is the part that's kind of natural. I'm not sure why it occurred. Maybe it's from

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