Your Listen.

Your listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

Okay.

So I think maybe people on the Zoom call can hear us, but the browser is still saying preparing to live stream the meeting.

So we're not on YouTube.

Hello to the people in Zoom, then.

What's that?

Welcome to the people in Zoom, yes. That's that? Welcome to the people in Zoom, yes.

That's exactly the way I would have put it.

We are now on YouTube because I started hearing your voice in my headphones.

Okay.

Good.

Well, then this is now the inauguration of the first ever non-zero slash psychopolitica joint

live stream.

And you're Nikita Petrov, as you know, publisher of Psychopolitico.

I'm Robert Wright.

As I know, publisher of Non-Zero newsletter.

And, you know, one irony here, Nikita, which you may be aware of, is that if you looked at our newsletters, you might not, you know, at a superficial level, see an obvious big commonality that would explain why we're talking to each other.

But if you took a deeper look,

you would still not see any obvious commonality. However, there must be some reason we're here together.

And part of it is our intertwined pass. And part of it is I think there is some kind of overlap

for our sensibilities that maybe we'll get to. Also, there's something about your approach to a

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