Psychedelics, Meditation, and the Brain (Robert Wright & Kathryn Devaney)
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4.7 • 618 Ratings
🗓️ 28 December 2023
⏱️ 58 minutes
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0:33 Kati’s very unusual Venn diagram 4:52 Your brain on meditation 10:59 The time Bob’s meditation got weird 16:43 What are the “jhanas”? 25:34 What science tells us about the jhana states 31:53 Are psychedelics gateway drugs to meditation? 41:25 Kati: Here’s how we get “not-self” wrong… 46:50 Psychedelics vs meditation—neuroscientifically 54:59 Heading to Overtime
Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Kathryn Devaney (The Alembic). Recorded December 06, 2023.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast. |
| 0:31.6 | Hi, Katie. |
| 0:35.2 | Hi, Bob. |
| 0:36.0 | How you doing? |
| 0:37.1 | I'm doing great. Well, good. Let me introduce this. Hi, bud. How you doing? I'm doing great. |
| 0:38.4 | Well, good. |
| 0:39.4 | Let me introduce us. |
| 0:41.0 | I'm Robert Wright, publisher of the non-zero newsletter. |
| 0:43.3 | This is the non-zero podcast. |
| 0:45.1 | You are Catherine Devaney. |
| 0:46.9 | And I'm really looking forward to this conversation because I think of you as being situated |
| 0:52.3 | at a very interesting place on an interesting van diagram. |
| 0:55.9 | Did you know that about yourself? |
| 0:57.8 | I have heard that about myself. |
| 1:00.1 | It took a while to end up in this place, but here I am. |
| 1:02.4 | Wait, does that mean you can guess which three circles I have you at the intersection of? |
| 1:07.2 | I can, I have one guess. |
| 1:09.3 | I could be wrong. |
| 1:10.2 | What is one of the circles? So, meditation. |
| 1:13.4 | Good. What's another? neuroscience. Good. There's only one more to go. Psychedelics. |
| 1:19.4 | Oh my God. This is like, this is like ESP. This is uncanny. I'm acing this quiz about myself. |
| 1:25.6 | This is, you can go now. You pass the test. We're done. |
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