What Is the "Woke Right"? (with Neil Shenvi)
Grace & Truth with Owen Strachan
Grace & Truth with Owen Strachan
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🗓️ 25 June 2024
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Dr. Owen Strachan interviews Neil Shenvi of Shenvi Apologetics, and they talk about the rise of what some are calling the "woke right". They discuss how Neil got interested in critical theory and wokeness, and how he began to understand critical race theory. They also explore the similarities between the woke left and the woke right, including the division of society into oppressors and oppressed, the reliance on hegemonic norms, and the goal of achieving social justice. They emphasize the importance of gospel unity in Christ and the need to reject both left-wing and right-wing wokeness.
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| 0:00.0 | We've heard a great deal about the woke left. |
| 0:13.3 | Wokeness is one of the key ideas of the last five to seven years in global realities. |
| 0:18.6 | But now we are hearing today about the rise of the woke right. My guest |
| 0:24.5 | today on Grace and Truth is Neil Shenvi. He is the author of a terrific article entitled, |
| 0:29.2 | What is the Woke Right on his own website? Neil is the author with Pat Sawyer of critical |
| 0:34.7 | dilemmas and why believe. He is a very sharp thinker and an important voice in the evangelical community. Neil, this is your debut on Grace and Truth. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you very much for inviting me, Alan. Well, it's an honor to have you. You and I've known each other for a number of years now. And when I was getting my toes dipped into wokeness, I guess now we're going to have to start |
| 0:55.4 | qualifying that, the woke left, probably rightly, your work was some of the first I encountered. |
| 1:03.5 | And you wrote really a booklet early on. |
| 1:07.2 | And I just love to hear from you, how did you get, before we dive into the woke right, which we will, how did you get |
| 1:13.4 | interested in critical theory and critical race theory and wokeness and social justice? |
| 1:18.2 | What led you to start engaging these issues some years ago? |
| 1:22.9 | I became a Christian graduate school at UC Berkeley, so 20, 2001, actually, a long time ago. And |
| 1:29.2 | immediately, I got involved in Apologetics. So I had a lot of friends, colleagues who were |
| 1:34.5 | skeptics, atheists, and I wanted to share the gospel with them. So I got into the standard |
| 1:39.7 | arguments for God's existence. Is Christianity true? Is the Bible reliable? Those kind of questions. |
| 1:45.6 | And that led me to publish my first book, Why Believe, which is just directed towards intellectuals, |
| 1:51.3 | people like my friends, who are struggling with why they should think Christianity is true. |
| 1:55.4 | And then I was finishing the draft around 2016 around the rise of Black Lives Matter. |
| 2:02.1 | And I was kind of looking for other research topics. |
| 2:05.6 | What should I write about, which I learn about? |
| 2:08.0 | And I remember watching the interview by Jordan Peterson at the time, |
| 2:11.9 | because I was trying to figure out, too, |
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