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Hello, it's Friday the 16th July, and I'm James Seif

and I'm joined today by Isabel Harman for coffee house

shots so isabel for news today Kirstarmer is is on the road he's launched a kind of listening

tour he's gone to Blackpool with the BBC to listen to voters who used to vote for Labour but

don't anymore how How did that go?

I think it probably went as well as we expected it to in that he did pick up a lot of people who

explained just why they couldn't trust the Labour Party and he had to listen to it to a lot of criticism on that,

particularly people who were actually saying that they just weren't ready to listen to it to a lot of criticism on that, particularly people who were actually saying that

they just weren't ready to listen to the Labour Party yet. And that's something that he's really

sort of majored on over the start of his leadership was that Labor needed to regain the right

to be heard, that that wasn't an automatic right, particularly amongst obviously those voters

who just abandoned it

after generations of their family had voted Labour, that it wasn't going to be a quick fix.

I mean, he's come out with this quote saying that I will sweat blood over months and years

to earn respect from voters, which for some reason reminds me of Ian Duncan Smith saying

The Quiet Man is turning up the volume, a sort of slightly over-dramatic turn of phrase that

shows really the sort of the problems that the leader finds himself with. But that said, a summer tour where you're out listening

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