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Flash Forward

What Is The Future Of Gender?

Flash Forward

Flash Forward Presents

Science

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Today we revisit an episode from way back in season one, and ask: what even is gender in the first place? How could it be different? Why does science fiction like playing with gender? And what would happen if we removed it from our legal identities? Guests: Os Keyes, a PhD student at the University of Washington who studies gender, disability, and technology. Dr. Flora Renz, co-director of the Centre for Sexuality, Race and Gender Justice at Kent Law School. Tuck Woodstock, a professional gender detective and host of the podcast Gender Reveal. Dr. Oliver Haimson, an assistant professor at the University of Michigan School of Information. Blue Delliquanti, a contributor to the Flash Forward book and author of the forthcoming graphic novel Across A Field Of Starlight. → → → Further reading & resources here! ← ← ← Flash Forward is hosted by, Rose Eveleth and produced by Julia Llinas Goodman. The intro music is by Asura and the outtro music is by Hussalonia. The episode art is by Mattie Lubchansky. Our ads and sponsorships are handled by Multitude. Get in touch: Twitter // Facebook // Reddit // [email protected] Support the show: Patreon // Donorbox Subscribe: iTunes // Soundcloud // Spotify Episode Sponsors: Bird Note: Stories about the enduring connections between birds, people and landscapes. The World As You'll Know It: Technology is at an inflection point. Can we harness it to make life better...or will it harness us? Join Kurt Andersen as he and a world-class selection of thinkers explore this question as it pertains to our brains, our personal lives, our laws and our government. Shaker & Spoon: A subscription cocktail service that helps you learn how to make hand-crafted cocktails right at home. Get $20 off your first box at shakerandspoon.com/ffwd. Tab for a Cause: A browser extension that lets you raise money for charity while doing your thing online. Whenever you open a new tab, you’ll see a beautiful photo and a small ad. Part of that ad money goes toward a charity of your choice! Join team Advice For And From The future by signing up at tabforacause.org/flashforward. Tavour: Tavour is THE app for fans of beer, craft brews, and trying new and exciting labels. You sign up in the app and can choose the beers you’re interested in (including two new ones DAILY) adding to your own personalized crate. Use code: flashforward for $10 off after your first order of $25 or more. Purple Carrot: Purple Carrot is THE plant-based subscription meal kit that makes it easy to cook irresistible meals to fuel your body. Each week, choose from an expansive and delicious menu of dinners, lunches, breakfasts, and snacks! Get $30 off your first box by going to www.purplecarrot.com and entering code FLASH at checkout today! Purple Carrot, the easiest way to eat more plants! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Flash Forward. I'm Rose and I am your host. Flash Forward is a show about

0:14.4

the future. Every episode we take on a specific possible or sometimes not so possible future scenario.

0:22.1

We always start with a little field trip into the future to check out what is going on.

0:26.8

And then we teleport back to today to talk to experts about how that world that we just heard

0:33.4

might actually go down. Got it? Great. Oh and this episode does have some cursing in it

0:41.2

just so you know. This episode we're starting in the year 2086.

0:45.6

There was a time not so long ago when our world was more rigid.

0:59.6

In courtship men are supposed to be in the active and women in the passive voice. London Journal 1875.

1:09.4

People separated themselves into groups. Men and women. Boys and girls.

1:17.3

There has been a great diversity of opinion on the subject but the generally accepted

1:21.5

rule is pink for the boy and blue for the girl. The reason is that pink being a more

1:26.7

decided and stronger color is more suitable for the boy. Well blue which is more delicate and

1:32.5

dainty is prettier for the girl. Ladies home journal 1918.

1:39.2

And with those groups came rules. Lots of rules. Boys wore suits and jeans and kept their hair short.

1:48.2

Girls wore pink and dresses and makeup. The two should not. Could not mix.

1:55.6

Women have one of the great acts of all time. The smart ones act very feminine and needy

2:01.8

but inside they are real killers. The person who came up with the expression the weaker sex

2:08.3

was either very naive or had to be kidding. President Donald Trump 1997.

2:16.8

Not only do men and women communicate differently but they think feel, perceive, react,

2:23.2

respond, love, need and appreciate differently. They almost seem to be from different planets

2:29.8

speaking different languages and needing different nourishment. John Gray 2002.

2:36.3

There was a time when these rules dictated every piece of a person's life.

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