The spectator combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of Unrivaled Authority.

Subscribe today for just £12 and receive a 12-week subscription in print and online

and get a £20 Amazon gift voucher absolutely free.

Go to spectator.co.uk slash summer.

Hello and welcome to Coffee How Shots, the spectator's daily politics podcast.

I'm Max Jeffery and I'm joined by Fraser Nelson and Katie Bulls.

Kirstama has said today that he wants a new security agreement with Europe

in the attempt to stop illegal migrants coming across the channel.

Katie, can you tell us about his grand plan?

So there are a few aspects to this and I think when you look at potential labour weaknesses,

obviously it's very easy to say all the Tories are having problems to stop the boats but I think

historically clearly migration has been an issue for labour and there's some interesting

polling this week from you guys with WPI which was about what is the new centre ground

and it found that when it comes to where voters think the centre is, Kirstama

it's seen as much from in the centre on the cost of living, on the economy and on lots of

very important issues but the Tories are seen as close to the centre when it comes to stopping

the boats and immigration and some of that is just historic brand.

Also I think probably the fact that Richie Sinek keeps talking about it even though he doesn't

have so much to point to is probably just leaning more into that and therefore I think Kirstama

and his team have felt this is an area where it is a potential vulnerability at the next election

and they need to have something to say so this week is his you know what he would do to stop the

boats week and we know that labour have been previously very critical of the Rwanda scheme

...