Repentance is a key word for marriage. I'm John Fuller along with Dr. Greg Smalley and his wife Aaron who lead our marriage team here and Greg

definitions are important how do you define repentance? Yeah I think it has to begin with an

acknowledgement that I messed up. There has to be this admittance that I

messed up. Otherwise, if this is general, you know, I see that you're hurting and I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're hurt.

Yeah, you gotta own that. There's, it has to begin with the personal responsibility is that, yeah this this is on me I think then really

leaning in to not just say okay I admit that I did it how now did I want to experience empathy. I want to know what that was really like for you so that you can then seek forgiveness. I always say that you never try to seek

forgiveness until you have felt what they felt, what that was like for them, and

I think that all then sets us up then to make amends.

Okay now based on I admit it, I felt what you went through, I've sought forgiveness, now what do I need to do to make this right?

That's good. That's really good. I appreciate that. And we're going to carry this theme into the clip that we're about to hear, featuring

focus president Jim Daly who spoke with Dr.

Ron Welch and his wife Jan. Now in previous episodes they addressed forgiveness

today they're going to talk about repentance and what that looks like.

Ron, that area of forgiveness, you say there are four elements.

Help us better understand what are those four elements?

You know, I think it starts with the idea of being able to actually think about the word

repentance and I'm going to focus on that more than any other because that word also has

somehow gotten a bad rap in our world today.

It's okay to say that you are accountable and responsible for

your actions and then in order to be forgiven you need to repent and you need to

actually say wow I need to do some work to figure out how this happened

rather than my bad I'm sorry well you know you think about that that happens

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