This is LBC from Global, leading Britain's conversation with James O'Brien.

Three minutes after ten, and well I know that I'm right because he said so.

The beginning, it's the beginning of building a new country, but they certainly, they have no

Navy, they have no Air Force.

It's all over.

The war is over.

He told us that it was.

So things that you need to know about early doors today, I think the first is that NATO is a defensive alliance.

This is something that has been ridden roughshod over by various liars and traitors to the Western cause.

When people like Nigel Farage talk about NATO threatening Russian interests in places like Ukraine.

They are being both liars and traitors because they are parroting Kremlin propaganda,

although Nigel Farage, as far as we are aware, has never been paid for doing so,

unlike his close friend and former protégé, Nathan Gill.

But they are also completely misrepresenting what NATO is.

It is a defensive alliance.

So if an act of attack, if an act of offence is taken against a NATO member,

then it triggers the article that prompts all NATO members to join in the response.

The United States of America, the only NATO member, I think in recent memory, if not ever,

to have triggered, I think Article 5.

And therefore, we sent many, many troops to Afghanistan, of course, including the hundreds that died from the United Kingdom, the ones that Donald Trump insulted not that long ago.

I think it was in January of this year, but I could be wrong, actually.

Let us refresh our memories about what Donald Trump said, both about

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