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What Is Elon Musk Thinking?

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2020

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

As the coronavirus shut down manufacturing across California in March and April, Elon Musk only wanted one thing: to start making cars again.


So when local government officials in Alameda County got in his way, Musk took the fight public, and won.


Guest: Kara Swisher, co-host of the Pivot podcast.


Host

Lizzie O’Leary


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Maybe it's because of quarantine, or maybe it's just my own tendencies, but I've spent

0:09.5

way too much time on Twitter lately, which in my world means it's been hard to ignore Elon Musk.

0:17.6

In between tweets about his company's Tesla and SpaceX, you get tweets like, cancel, cancel culture, and Minecraft has amazing legs.

0:27.7

Or, more significantly, on May 11th, saying he'd be defying the public health order that had closed one of his factories in California.

0:36.2

He tweeted, Tesla is restarting production today

0:39.7

against Alameda County rules. Sometimes he's just playing with people other times he means it.

0:45.6

You know, he uses it as a performance, I think, is that is what he's doing. That's Kara Swisher,

0:51.4

the dean of tech journalists. She started Recode, hosts the Pivot podcast, and she's covered Elon Musk for a long time.

0:59.7

And Kara does not suffer fools.

1:02.1

Well, yeah, I was going to ask you this past weekend, he tweeted, take the red pill, which is this...

1:07.0

Whatever.

1:09.6

Take the red pill is a line from the Matrix.

1:12.5

It means basically, wake up and see the truth.

1:15.5

Yes, it's a line from a movie, but it's also become popular with the alt-right.

1:20.2

The alt-right has grabbed it, but before that, a lot of techies like that line, too.

1:24.6

But I think he fully knows all the implications.

1:27.3

I think a lot of people

1:28.2

get angry because he knows the implications and he still makes a joke anyway.

1:36.4

The thing about Elon Musk's tweeting now is that it's part joke, part performance art,

1:42.4

and part defiance of public health guidelines.

1:44.9

And it has real stakes for his companies and their workers.

1:49.5

I ask Kara to help me understand what is going on in his brain.

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